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#1 - posted by Delta* at 4/9/2008 7:14:47 PM
interesting read there Eman. Good work.

#2 - posted by zeDocteur at 4/9/2008 7:16:02 PM
Stop rekindling my passion for liquid cooling, so many designs, loops come to mind... use non-conductive coolant, bleed the system well and you are guaranteed low temperatures with awesome aesthetics to boot. Brilliant article Outlaw, cheers, and awaiting the next part in the trilogy of the cooling!

#3 - posted by x3ro at 4/9/2008 7:52:58 PM
remarkable article. great job ;)

#4 - posted by Kranzorg at 4/9/2008 9:47:44 PM
great article! keep them coming!

#5 - posted by Kranzorg at 4/9/2008 9:52:48 PM
What about the cost? How much would such things cost? Give us an idea

#6 - posted by zeDocteur at 4/9/2008 10:25:48 PM
As he said, depends on your budget... two loops with high end components would set you back around 500 of the old Maltese liri...

#7 - posted by Outlaw at 4/9/2008 10:41:24 PM
it also depends on what brands you use what colours you want and a million other things and the cheapest (reasonably good) kits on the market are the thermaltake ones they start at about 40 LM

#8 - posted by zeDocteur at 4/9/2008 10:58:30 PM
I thought we said no kits... TT kits have rotten pumps speaks from experience

#9 - posted by Outlaw at 4/9/2008 11:16:21 PM
yes we said no kits but ppl still buy them might as well guide them in a good direction and the pump in the kit i said earlier is 500l/hr not hmm 84l/hr lol

#10 - posted by MIRO at 4/9/2008 11:16:51 PM
Great job mate! :D i <3 watercooling. Built one for my sok project last year =]

#11 - posted by Thrasher at 4/10/2008 2:07:18 AM
well done mate, exelent job!

#12 - posted by Duke at 4/10/2008 8:24:49 AM
Great article! Damn, this is gonna get me into water cooling :) The thing I am worried about most is noise from the pump. How noisy/quiet are those things? Otherwise, I'm seriously considering water cooling!

#13 - posted by clinf at 4/10/2008 8:27:36 AM
i am considering water cooling with my new rig... it would be nice ze if u explain problems u had with kits

#14 - posted by postmortem at 4/10/2008 8:34:37 AM
Very nice article. I always thought liquid cooling is a great enhancement to one's pc but personally speaking I would never do it due to the fact of rusting but anyway for me it won't matter considering the fact Liquid Cooling is for mean systems such as 3 Way or Quadf Sli/Crossfire and OCed big time CPUs. I don't think it would be worth the hassle if you have less than that.

#15 - posted by Shevron at 4/10/2008 8:43:02 AM
rusting? naaa High finish metals don't rust. We're in 2008 mate, iron is out of fashion ;)

#16 - posted by PrOpHeT at 4/10/2008 9:06:10 AM
You've got me tempted into getting liquid cooling for my new rig. Have been pondering about it for quite a long time now, and this has got the will back in me. How much roughly a basic system, CPU + GPU Block, Pump, Pipes, Coolant, Radiator to fit with them would cost if bought separately ? Nothing highend, but nothing cheapish also :P

#17 - posted by zeDocteur at 4/10/2008 9:52:04 AM
Even if you don't have massive overclocks, the benefits you get from much reduced noise and better aesthetics surpass the hassle of bleeding and maintaining the system. Rust is not a problem, algae and air maybe. For a decent 200-250 euros you can get all that Prophet, nothing over the top high end. Danger Den come highly recommended ;-)

#18 - posted by Outlaw at 4/10/2008 10:08:28 AM
Duke there are pumps that are noisy but most of the modern pumps are basically inaudible. go to www.3dgameman.com and see some reviews on watercooling kits and you can actually hear them running on the review and them compare :) Postmortem unless you dont have a case made of iron it wont rust and not even air and algae are a problem if its done properly. And liquid cooling is used not only in high end systems its also widely used in HTPC's so you don't need to have to have all the high end equipment to watercool. Prophet price can vary from 250 euros to a 1000 pm me me for help about choosing parts and even help mif needed :)

#19 - posted by dingo at 4/10/2008 10:10:15 AM
Another thing (as ze always insists) – NEVER buy a kit. There is no reason whatsoever to do this. Kits either are much overpriced or contain very weak components. You really get what you pay for in liquid cooling! not true ! there are kits that are cheaper to buy then loose and also they will fit perfectly with each other !

#20 - posted by Outlaw at 4/10/2008 10:16:59 AM
sry for 2 comments im at school and internet sux :/ dingo be honest its better NOT to buy a kit, they are cheaper becuase they contain low performance parts and sometimes kits are already connected and bled which means if yuo have a leak they are useless

#21 - posted by zeDocteur at 4/10/2008 10:23:29 AM
Kits are always problematic, even high end ones from Swiftech or Asetek... there is always some weak part in the whole loop, usually the pump or the radiators... Better to mix and match all the separate components.

#22 - posted by Kranzorg at 4/11/2008 8:52:27 AM
How are the pipes secured? some sort of clips?

#23 - posted by Outlaw at 4/11/2008 9:56:09 AM
components page kranz! Fittings..

#24 - posted by Duke at 4/11/2008 10:16:22 AM
Ok, you win!!! Liquid cooling AS SOON as I am back in Malta :)

#25 - posted by Outlaw at 4/11/2008 11:30:53 AM
duke y not get the components with you to malta!

#26 - posted by Duke at 4/11/2008 12:05:50 PM
Good point! Will do.